Inverting the spindle on a vertical turret lathe can make a great lathe even better

Author Kip Hanson
February 08, 2018 - 09:00am

The vertical turret lathe is known for its ability to efficiently produce large, turned parts like mag wheels, bearing hubs and gear blanks. VTLs offer many advantages over their horizontal cousins: Part loading is easier, and even very large parts can be accommodated without increasing the machine footprint. 

However, VTLs have a significant drawback, one familiar to anyone operating a vertical machining center—the chips fall onto the workpiece, where they are subject to recutting.

Several machine tool builders offer VTLs that avoid this problem. By inverting the spindle, chip problems are virtually eliminated. This approach also provides nearly free automation. By using the spindle as you would a robot—picking up parts from an onboard conveyor or carousel and unloading them—throughput is increased without the hassle of robot integration, programming and gripper management.

‘Drehen Fräsen’

Jakob Petker, an applications engineer who handles technical sales at DMG Mori USA, Hoffman Estates, Ill., said the machine builder offers several models of VTLs, each with an inverted spindle and live tools. “We have three different sizes, ranging from our CTV 160 to our CTV 315. There’s also a ‘df’ version of our CTV 250—this stands for drehen fräsen, German for turn/mill. It is designed specifically for the homokinetic joints [CV joints] used in automobile drivetrains.”

Image courtesy of EMAG.

Petker said the need for efficient production of these and other automotive parts has been the primary driver behind machine development, adding that VTLs are also suitable for hydraulic components, chain wheels, bearing housings and other short, squat parts. Because of the nearly free automation that comes with an inverted spindle, these machines are typically used for automotive-level production volumes. By using flexible, quick-change workholding and clever job scheduling, even lower quantities—in the 100- to 1,000-piece range—can be cost-effectively machined.

“We also have a lot of customers that connect two machines together on the same conveyor,” Petker said. “This gives them the ability to perform Op. 10 on one spindle, flip the workpiece and then pass it to the second machine for finishing. Because milling functionality is also available, parts can often leave the cell complete.”

Kirk Stewart, director of sales for EMAG LLC, Farmington Hills, Mich., agreed. He said a traditional “right-side up” VTL is geared toward very large, heavy components that would be challenging to run on a horizontal spindle lathe. However, the sweet spot for inverted machines is from 3" (76.2mm) to about 14" (355.6mm) in diameter. 

“Big parts are much easier to run on a VTL because you have gravity working in your favor,” he said. “You can just set the part down on the chuck and clamp it. But inverted machines compete nicely in the horizontal lathe market—especially at the higher volumes seen in the automotive market—on transmission parts, for example, or any round part that’s roughly as tall as it is wide.”

Top-Down Precision

Stewart cited the various benefits of an inverted VTL machine structure: First, because chips don’t fall onto the workpiece, there’s no chip re-cutting as there is on a traditional VTL. In addition, the machine’s scales, motors and drive components are above the work zone. Therefore, coolant and its associated contaminants are not “going into the expensive part of the machine.” Also, the ability to automatically self-load and unload parts is a given on any inverted VTL.

High-capacity carousels equipped with flip stations for secondary operations provide automated handling between machine tools. Image courtesy of DMG Mori.

In EMAG’s case, this loading and unloading is done with a racetrack-style carousel equipped with V-shaped, self-centering workpiece-blank locators. “In the case of an inverted VTL, such as our VL2 and VL2 DUO,” Stewart said, “the cutting tool remains static on the indexing turret. Meanwhile, the spindle, together with the workpiece, is moving in the X and Z axes above it.” As a result, Stewart added, the user has the ability to take the workpiece to an unload location, index the carousel or shuttle to pick up a raw part and then take it back to the turret for machining. “It’s this difference in machine architecture that allows these machines to be self-loading.”

To pick up a part without mashing it into the spindle, a gimbal plate with four heavy-duty die springs is mounted in the loading position. When the spindle comes down to grab a new blank, the springs compress enough so any Z-axis deviation is absorbed, preventing damage to the spindle and chuck. The mechanism is also equipped with sensors to detect any misloading or misalignment issues and stop the machine in the event of a problem.

Why bother with this sort of merry-go-round approach when robotic part handling is both effective and readily available? Stewart said, in this instance, conventional robots have several strikes against them, including a larger footprint and the need for cages or light curtains to ensure operator safety. In addition, end users typically place a robot in front of the machine, making it more difficult for the operator to access the control and tend cutting tools. 

However, with a carousel, an operator can easily manage the machine and load it with enough blanks to keep it busy for hours of unattended machining. If a shop does want to use a robot, it’s simple enough to mount one to the side of a VTL, where it is out of the way and can tend to the carousel.

A Productive Interview

Rob Nash, Charlotte, N.C.-based account manager for machine tool builder Scherer Feinbau GmbH, a German company that is part of the Chiron Group, pointed out several additional advantages of inverted-spindle machines: “Because the critical components are not exposed to heat, chips and cutting fluids, machine longevity is generally better. Maintenance is a matter of lifting a couple of covers.” He explained that the machine is inherently more accurate and, thanks to gravity, more stable, permitting heavier cuts and improved tool life.

Gear hobbing is just one of the specialty operations possible on a properly equipped inverted-spindle VTL. Image courtesy of EMAG.

Despite these benefits, Nash warned that buying a system like this isn’t simply a matter of picking one off the showroom floor. Potential customers are interviewed as to their needs and applications before the right solutions can be determined. 

“We are very flexible in terms of the types of automation that are available, the specific machine configuration and options,” he said. “For example, how much buffer time do you need? Will there be an operator present? Will other         machines be included in the automation? Most importantly, is this even the right solution? We don’t want to waste the customer’s time if there’s a better machine resource available.”

Of course, these are good questions to ask before making any machine purchase, but especially so when a fully automated turnkey system might run upward of $1 million. “It’s a different animal than what people are used to,” Nash said. “For us, it’s about how much value we can add to every square foot of floor space. But considering that our machines are not only very effective at turning but also drilling, milling and gear hobbing, the cost justification, in most cases, is very easy to demonstrate.”

Do Your Homework

Mazak Corp., Florence, Ky., is another machine tool builder that offers a full line of inverted-spindle lathes (labeled “IVS”), as well as various traditional VTL models. Product Manager Rick Bramstedt said most of the activity he sees comes from the automotive industry and its tier suppliers. For example, one company in the Eastern U.S. recently purchased 50 IVS machines, and another in a nearby state “just purchased a number of them.”

In-process probing and tool life management support unattended machining operations on an inverted VTL. Image courtesy of Scherer Feinbau.

Despite the fact that the majority of inverted machines find homes in high-volume automotive shops, Bramstedt said there’s no reason one can’t be used in a job shop, provided the quantities justify it. “The machines are programmed the same way, the tooling is the same, and you have the built-in automation. If you have a family of parts with a few hundred parts to run, for example, it would do a fine job. But to be honest, most people in this situation go with a traditional VTL. That’s because, in most cases, an IVS installation is very application-specific, and by the time you’re done tooling one up with workpiece conveyors and gaging and special workholding, it can get pretty expensive.”

Whatever the price of the machine or whatever logo is on the sheet metal, inverted VTLs clearly have a place in manufacturing.

Said EMAG’s Stewart: “Manufacturers are lusting for better productivity. Success these days is a matter of maintaining a competitive advantage in the face of fewer skilled resources to run the machines. While this style of machine might not be for the run-of-the-mill job shop, I have customers that are running lot sizes in the low hundreds. There is definitely value in this solution.”

Related Glossary Terms

  • chuck


    Workholding device that affixes to a mill, lathe or drill-press spindle. It holds a tool or workpiece by one end, allowing it to be rotated. May also be fitted to the machine table to hold a workpiece. Two or more adjustable jaws actually hold the tool or part. May be actuated manually, pneumatically, hydraulically or electrically. See collet.

  • coolant


    Fluid that reduces temperature buildup at the tool/workpiece interface during machining. Normally takes the form of a liquid such as soluble or chemical mixtures (semisynthetic, synthetic) but can be pressurized air or other gas. Because of water’s ability to absorb great quantities of heat, it is widely used as a coolant and vehicle for various cutting compounds, with the water-to-compound ratio varying with the machining task. See cutting fluid; semisynthetic cutting fluid; soluble-oil cutting fluid; synthetic cutting fluid.

  • family of parts

    family of parts

    Parts grouped by shape and size for efficient manufacturing.

  • gang cutting ( milling)

    gang cutting ( milling)

    Machining with several cutters mounted on a single arbor, generally for simultaneous cutting.

  • lathe


    Turning machine capable of sawing, milling, grinding, gear-cutting, drilling, reaming, boring, threading, facing, chamfering, grooving, knurling, spinning, parting, necking, taper-cutting, and cam- and eccentric-cutting, as well as step- and straight-turning. Comes in a variety of forms, ranging from manual to semiautomatic to fully automatic, with major types being engine lathes, turning and contouring lathes, turret lathes and numerical-control lathes. The engine lathe consists of a headstock and spindle, tailstock, bed, carriage (complete with apron) and cross slides. Features include gear- (speed) and feed-selector levers, toolpost, compound rest, lead screw and reversing lead screw, threading dial and rapid-traverse lever. Special lathe types include through-the-spindle, camshaft and crankshaft, brake drum and rotor, spinning and gun-barrel machines. Toolroom and bench lathes are used for precision work; the former for tool-and-die work and similar tasks, the latter for small workpieces (instruments, watches), normally without a power feed. Models are typically designated according to their “swing,” or the largest-diameter workpiece that can be rotated; bed length, or the distance between centers; and horsepower generated. See turning machine.

  • milling


    Machining operation in which metal or other material is removed by applying power to a rotating cutter. In vertical milling, the cutting tool is mounted vertically on the spindle. In horizontal milling, the cutting tool is mounted horizontally, either directly on the spindle or on an arbor. Horizontal milling is further broken down into conventional milling, where the cutter rotates opposite the direction of feed, or “up” into the workpiece; and climb milling, where the cutter rotates in the direction of feed, or “down” into the workpiece. Milling operations include plane or surface milling, endmilling, facemilling, angle milling, form milling and profiling.

  • turning


    Workpiece is held in a chuck, mounted on a face plate or secured between centers and rotated while a cutting tool, normally a single-point tool, is fed into it along its periphery or across its end or face. Takes the form of straight turning (cutting along the periphery of the workpiece); taper turning (creating a taper); step turning (turning different-size diameters on the same work); chamfering (beveling an edge or shoulder); facing (cutting on an end); turning threads (usually external but can be internal); roughing (high-volume metal removal); and finishing (final light cuts). Performed on lathes, turning centers, chucking machines, automatic screw machines and similar machines.

  • turret lathe

    turret lathe

    Differs from engine lathe in that the normal compound rest is replaced by pivoting, multitool turrets mounted on the cross slide and tailstock. See lathe.


Contributing Editor

Kip Hanson is a contributing editor for Cutting Tool Engineering magazine. Contact him by phone at (520) 548-7328 or via e-mail at


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